In the film, robins costume was marked with comments from the joker, suggesting that the clown prince of crime killed him. Oct 23, 2019 however, even though joker is set apart and doesnt connect to ben afflecks batman in batman v superman who had a robin killed by the joker or robert pattinson in the batman for now, at least, its logical to assume batmans future in joker s universe unfolds similarly to other batman continuities, like the dark knight of the tim burton. Joker is a 2019 american psychological thriller directed and produced by todd phillips, who cowrote the screenplay with scott silver. Suicide squad easter egg suggests harley quinn killed robin. A new fan theory suggests that joker was actually meant to be revealed as robin in suicide squad but david ayer changed his mind at the last minute.
In batman comics, the wayne murders traditionally happen after the family watched the mark of zorro. Kane and robinson claimed responsibility for the jokers design while acknowledging fingers writing contribution. Ayer, however, told wsvntv that the jokerrobin theory is the most ridiculous rumor he heard while making the movie. Gotham star robin lord taylor answers that joker theory. Today on film theory, im tackling one of comics age old questions who is the joker. Jul 26, 2016 in 2000s surprisingly violent directtovideo batman beyond. Okay, so it may be a tad farfetched, but according to the folks at youtubes the film.
Return of the joker, tim drake the third man to take on the identity of robin, after dick grayson and jason todd is. I also called the original joker the criminal mastermind as well, as he definitely seems to use his intelligence to outsmart the police and rival batman more than his unpredictability and is arguably the most sane though one could argue the super sane grant morrison joker is the most sane in a certain point of view. Why robin williams never played the joker or the riddler. Set in 1981, it follows arthur fleck, a failed standup comedian whose descent into insanity and nihilism inspires a. In the current post rebirth batman canon, batman learned there are 3 jokers from the god chair. Dcwarner bros suicide squad director david ayer has confirmed a fan theory about one of the tattoos sported by jared letos joker in his 2016 movie ayer also commented on how much footage of the character was left on the cutting room floor and his sympathy for leto as a result. Suicide squad writerdirector david ayer shoots down a fan favorite theory about jared letos joker that has to do with the character jason todd.
As the fourth live action joker, is suicide squads joker a brand new entity or is he simply the continuation of one of the past jokers weve seen before. Jun 19, 2017 of course, a similar theory saying that jared leto was actually playing jason todd who had been confirmed dead in the dceu had been put forth and debunked. Jun 02, 2017 specifically, batman v superman and suicide squad. Sep 01, 2015 culture film news the joker is the hero of the dark knight, popular fan theory posits. Joker fan theory confirmed by suicide squad director. May 16, 2017 it was established in batman v superman. Dcwarner bros suicide squad director david ayer has confirmed a fan theory about one of the tattoos sported by jared letos joker in his 2016 movie. Batman v superman director debunks jokerwasrobin fan. You know, like how obiwan insisted vader murdered anakin skywalker. Crazy rumors should always be taken with a big grain of salt.
Film theory is suicide squads joker actually batmans boy. At face value, this looks like a confirmation of robins death and the joker taunting him based on the font. Joker is the first liveaction theatrical batman film to receive an rrating from the motion picture association of america, due to its violent and disturbing content. That could totally be a reference to dick grayson turning from good robin to bad joker. This dark knight fan theory puts the joker as the hero, and. The supposed villain rooted out gothams corrupt officials. He then embarks on a downward spiral of revolution and bloody crime. A twitter user posted a theory involving the tattoo, writing, i think the damaged tattoo is actually pretty ingenious, but only for those who understand. Dc should incorporate this joker fan theory into their. The film, based on dc comics characters, stars joaquin phoenix as the joker and provides a possible origin story for the character. Whether this theory is wrong or right, its clear heath ledger wont be the only one remembered for. Suicide squad director confirms theory about jokers damaged. How batman v superman maybe confirmed robin as the joker.
Return of the joker, batmans nemesis kidnaps and tortures tim drake. Batman v superman director debunks jokerwasrobin fan theory this article is more than 4 years old zack snyder has offered fans a more prosaic explanation for the appearance of robins costume. Superman hit theaters, there was a theory kicking around that jared letos joker was secretly batmans sidekick, robin. Suicide squad director shoots down joker fan theory. What if joker is really just the former robin in batman v. But its not a character trait of the joker to continually exist while knowing the identity of batman. Dawn of justice that robin has already come and gone by the time we get to the films story. Aug 17, 2015 its been speculated that jason todd, a. In the case of the fan theory regarding joker from the upcoming suicide squad film via batman v superman.
Knowing what you do about the jokers connection to robin, the image sent fans into a frenzy thinking the joker could be in both suicide squad and batman v superman. While phoenix is superb, nicholsons legendary portrayal combined with the batman mythology helped ignite an appetite for the latest movie. Aug 14, 2016 the theory has spread across the internet through a meme which uses the joker s dialogue to narrate a scene from the stanley kubrickhelmed film. Joker got the tattoo because batman damaged his smile in a failed attempt at revenge for killing robin.
The story follows jason toddrobins quest to be reunited with his birth mother after being relieved of his duties by batman. Could suicide squads joker actually be former robin tim drake. Notice also, that theres only one serious joker on the cover, the one right up front. Culture film news the joker is the hero of the dark knight, popular fan theory posits.
Jul 26, 2016 suicide squad writerdirector david ayer shoots down a fan favorite theory about jared letos joker that has to do with the character jason todd. He also dismissed a popular fan theory that the joker actually was robin in this film universe, rather than his apparent killer, as appears to be the case. What are the chances the joker actually turns out to be robin. Jun 01, 2017 however, the proof we cover today shows that suicide squads joker can still be robin. The joker is the hero of the dark knight, popular fan. Return of the joker, tim drake the third man to take on the identity of robin, after dick grayson and jason todd.
The obvious first thought is that the joker killed robin, but there might be more to it. May 07, 2020 jared leto as the joker in 2016s suicide squad. Nobody mentions him, but bruce walks by a robin suit with the words hahaha. And now, with the release of suicide squad, how does jared letos joker fit in to the mix. Jul 12, 2015 obviously the go to answer is that the joker killed robin, much like he did to jason todd in the famous death in the family storyline actually the fans killed robin, the cruel, cruel fans.
Aug 03, 2016 and now, with the release of suicide squad, how does jared letos joker fit in to the mix. Batman v superman director debunks jokerwasrobin fan theory. Fans think the joker in suicide squad could be robin. Apr 01, 2016 batman v superman director debunks jokerwasrobin fan theory this article is more than 4 years old zack snyder has offered fans a more prosaic explanation for the appearance of robins costume.
For a quick refresher, a fan on reddit reasoned that the joker in the upcoming film. But its not a character trait of the joker to continually exist while knowing the identity of. Suicide squad director confirms theory about jokers. Kane and robinson claimed responsibility for the joker s design while acknowledging fingers writing contribution. Joker theory suggests the movie sets up flashpoint batman. However, the film theorists now postulate that suicide squads joker is tim drake, the third robin after jason todd. Obviously the go to answer is that the joker killed robin, much like he did to jason todd in the famous death in the family storyline actually the fans killed robin, the. Batman three jokers theory by film theory suicide squad. In the 1989 batman movie joker did kill batmans parents. Could suicide squads joker actually be former robin tim. Jul 26, 2016 suicide squad writer and director david ayer has debunked the major fan theory that the joker is batmans sidekick robin legend has it that second robin jason todd was not killed by the. The joker is a supervillain created by bill finger, bob kane, and jerry robinson who first appeared in the debut issue of the comic book batman april 25, 1940, published by dc comics.
As much as nicholson made that part his own at the time, the thought of a robin williams joker has to go down as one of the great what ifs in super hero. The joker is the hero of the dark knight, popular fan theory. The theory states that the joker we see in suicide squad is actually robin, batmans adolescent sidekick, twisted and tortured by. This dark knight fan theory makes the joker the hero. New suicide squad theory suggests joker was meant to be. Of course, a similar theory saying that jared leto was actually playing jason todd who had been confirmed dead in the dceu had been put forth and debunked. Knowing what you do about the joker s connection to robin, the image sent fans into a frenzy thinking the joker could be in both suicide squad and batman v superman. I think this joker is the criminal mastermind, the original red hood that hired the comedian to portray him for one night while he went. But maybe his death was only metaphorical because where robin died, the joker was born. Heath ledgers joker became notorious for his use of multiple stories concerning the acquisition of his scars, but one of them he seems to have borrowed from stanley kubricks the shining. Ayer also commented on how much footage of the character was left on the cutting room floor and his sympathy for leto as a result. Jul 27, 2016 ayer, however, told wsvntv that the jokerrobin theory is the most ridiculous rumor he heard while making the movie.
In gotham city, mentally troubled comedian arthur fleck is disregarded and mistreated by society. This dark knight fan theory puts the joker as the hero. Nov 28, 2016 in the film, robin s costume was marked with comments from the joker, suggesting that the clown prince of crime killed him. Dc comics this is the biggest and most widespread theory around right now, as popularized by redditor jasong169 s very meticulous breakdown of the suicide squad and. I was just developing a theory very similar to this, well done. Suicide squad writer and director david ayer has debunked the major fan theory that the joker is batmans sidekick robin legend has it. Aug 19, 2015 that could totally be a reference to dick grayson turning from good robin to bad joker. The flashforward theory allows phoenix to be the batarang. In 2000s surprisingly violent directtovideo batman beyond. A death in the family is a fourissue, 1988 batman comic book storyline published by dc comics. Aug 29, 2015 this dark knight fan theory puts the joker as the hero, and it kind of works aug. Suicide squad easter egg suggests harley quinn killed.
The director of suicide squad confirmed that the deceased robin was a character from the comics named jason todd in interviews earlier this year. With the film festival circuit in full swing and joker dominating all discussion, it seems like every dc comics fan is attempting to figure out how the spinoff film focused on batmans greatest. Aug 02, 2016 as the fourth live action joker, is suicide squads joker a brand new entity or is he simply the continuation of one of the past jokers weve seen before. All with the intent to antagonize and infuriate batman simply by seeing his face. However, the film theorists now postulate that suicide squads joker is tim drake, the third robin after jason todd in batman beyond. For the record, lets acknowledge that this theory is only discussing the dark knight joker and not the psychopathic robinkiller from the comics.
The story was written by jim starlin and illustrated by jim aparo, while mike mignola designed each cover. However, zorro the gay blade is an eyebrowraising switch. We do love a good superhero movie theory, and the latest dc universe one about the joker is a doozy. Joker premiered at the 76th venice international film festival on august 31, 2019, where it won the golden lion, and was released in the united states on october 4, 2019. Congratulations to the geniuses who came up with a way to explain why ben afflecks dark knight is in such a bad mood. Theres a pretty compelling new theory going around that letos joker is actually not the original joker.
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